out there, there are lots of ways to debate or negotiate with you, but if you can sign the bill into law, i would be happy to. >> chris: charitable deductions? you are a big charity guy. >> the president has seen a lot of the options from us, there are a lot of them put on the table and i'm hopeful the conversations will continue. >> chris: okay. but, let's talk about your proposal, because, the president -- and i'm sure this has driven you nuts, says, the math tends not to work. look at your math. the white house says a realistic cap -- and i'll explain what that means, $25,000 on people making more than $250,000, a cap on deductions, you can only take $25,000 in itemized deductions and exempting things like charitable deduction, unlikely you would do away with that would only bring in $450 billion, not the $800 billion you are talking about or the trillion, $450 billion. the math tends not to work, they say. >> no, the white house knows the math will work. the perfect kinds of revenue on the table we have been talking about. it won't work if we are trying to get to $1.6 trillion, i'll